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2019 Lincoln Aviator: Love it or Hate it?


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#1 OFFLINE   Aviator Guide

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Posted 29 March 2018 - 07:04 PM

2019 Lincoln Aviator: Love it or Hate it?

 

Now that the next-generation Lincoln Aviator has been introduced - the preview will be the real thing - what are your thoughts about the new model?  Will you be considering a 2019 Lincoln Aviator?  Why or why not?

 

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 09:51 AM

How about LOVE.  I love it.  I can't wait to see it in person and in ruby red!


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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:21 PM

2019 Lincoln Aviator: Love it or Hate it?

 

Now that the next-generation Lincoln Aviator has been introduced - the preview will be the real thing - what are your thoughts about the new model?  Will you be considering a 2019 Lincoln Aviator?  Why or why not?

 

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It depends.  If Ford can check the right boxes on the hybrid. All electric range of 30 + miles, 75 mph all electric and 0-60 8 seconds or less.  I suspect to do that they will need electric motors of 200 + hp with a 16 kW+ battery.  Substantially less then this and they are not being serious.



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Posted 17 August 2018 - 04:34 PM

It depends.  If Ford can check the right boxes on the hybrid. All electric range of 30 + miles, 75 mph all electric and 0-60 8 seconds or less.  I suspect to do that they will need electric motors of 200 + hp with a 16 kW+ battery.  Substantially less then this and they are not being serious.

 

I expect the Aviator plug-in Hybrid to have about 450 HP so 0-60 below 8 seconds is easy. Lincoln already stated a performance “mightier than many supercars on the road today”.

 

I doubt the electric motor will be 200 HP+ but in the end, that is not necessary in the first place. If they start with the 2.7, 3.0 or 3.5 V6, they already have quite some power to begin with.

 

The 30+ mile electric range is also possible. I recall an interview with a comment by Lincoln that indicates a positive surprise in regards to range. It was basically said that electric ranges like 10 or 15 miles wouldn't 'fly' anymore.


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 07:32 PM

I expect the Aviator plug-in Hybrid to have about 450 HP so 0-60 below 8 seconds is easy. Lincoln already stated a performance “mightier than many supercars on the road today”.

 

I doubt the electric motor will be 200 HP+ but in the end, that is not necessary in the first place. If they start with the 2.7, 3.0 or 3.5 V6, they already have quite some power to begin with.

 

The 30+ mile electric range is also possible. I recall an interview with a comment by Lincoln that indicates a positive surprise in regards to range. It was basically said that electric ranges like 10 or 15 miles wouldn't 'fly' anymore.

 

I was talking about 0-60 below 8 seconds - in all electric range - thus the need for @200 hp in the electric motors.  A serious plug in hybrid has to be able to be driven seriously in electric only mode.  With a 3.0 eb and 200 electric hp in "performance" mode the car should be able to do a -60 in @ 5 seconds.  If it could do the minimum I indicated with electric only AND also have the "performance" ability - that would be a headliner and a home run.



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Posted 14 October 2018 - 05:00 PM

I was talking about 0-60 below 8 seconds - in all electric range - thus the need for @200 hp in the electric motors.  A serious plug in hybrid has to be able to be driven seriously in electric only mode.  With a 3.0 eb and 200 electric hp in "performance" mode the car should be able to do a -60 in @ 5 seconds.  If it could do the minimum I indicated with electric only AND also have the "performance" ability - that would be a headliner and a home run.

 

That's more difficult to predict. I'm not aware of too many plug in hybrids that focus on performance in electric mode only. Would be nice if the Aviator would be one. I'm not even sure if there are many plug-in hybrids where you can select an 'electric only'-mode in the first place. If you put the pedal to the metal, the gas engine usually engages to deliver the best performance. That's the idea behind any hybrid vehicle.

 

I'd love to see a total output of 500HP+ but I'm predicting slightly less.



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Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:47 AM

Definitely love it, and am looking forward to buying this in two or three years!  (As much as I want to buy it next summer when it comes out, I don't need a new car anytime soon, and I'm trying to be financially responsible...  :whistling:)


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Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:57 AM

I expect the Aviator plug-in Hybrid to have about 450 HP....

 

Well, I guess I wasn't that far off....LOL! ;)



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Posted 03 December 2018 - 02:40 PM

Well, I guess I wasn't that far off....LOL! ;)

 

No, you weren't!

 

On the one hand, while I like that Lincoln is using the electric motor more to boost performance than to improve MPG numbers, on the other hand, I was hoping for more pure electric range.  I know we don't have official numbers yet, but it doesn't seem like it's going to be much more than in the 30-50 mile range.  Which is better than nothing, of course.  We can't have everything, and I'll take the improved performance over pure electric range if I had to choose.

 

The 600 pound-feet of torque is crazy though!  :drool: Definitely looking forward to trying one out next summer!



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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:56 PM

Love the pics and videos so far. Have to see it in person for my final decision.



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Posted 04 December 2018 - 10:59 PM

No, you weren't!

 

On the one hand, while I like that Lincoln is using the electric motor more to boost performance than to improve MPG numbers, on the other hand, I was hoping for more pure electric range.  I know we don't have official numbers yet, but it doesn't seem like it's going to be much more than in the 30-50 mile range.  Which is better than nothing, of course.  We can't have everything, and I'll take the improved performance over pure electric range if I had to choose.

 

The 600 pound-feet of torque is crazy though!  :drool: Definitely looking forward to trying one out next summer!

I would be happy with 30+ miles as long as it is decent performance in all electric mode.



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Posted 04 December 2018 - 11:04 PM

True, that's the other factor.  I wonder how much performance will be limited in pure electric mode.  Only a few more months to go!  Well, maybe several months...

 

I would be happy with 30+ miles as long as it is decent performance in all electric mode.



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Posted 05 December 2018 - 01:59 AM

True, that's the other factor.  I wonder how much performance will be limited in pure electric mode.  Only a few more months to go!  Well, maybe several months...

Well it looks like they start production next May so it will have to be by then.



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Posted 05 December 2018 - 05:20 PM

^ I believe the GT won’t be available until the fall.

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 05:24 PM

Bummer! Where did you read that?

^ I believe the GT won’t be available until the fall.








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